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The latest analysis from ESPN's Chad Ford suggests the Denver Nuggets could have done better in the 2012 NBA Draft. Ford's latest draft grades have the Nuggets earning a "B" mark for their selection of Evan Fournier, Quincy Miller and Izzet Turkyilmaz:
Analysis: I'm not totally sold Fournier's game will translate at the NBA level, and he might end up being a reach at No. 20. But he is an aggressive scorer who was productive in Europe. I love the Quincy Miller pick, however. He was ranked No. 17 on our Big Board and was a steal at 38... Turkyilmaz is a project that the Nuggets will keep over in Europe for a few years. But there is some intriguing potential there.
The 2012 NBA Draft is over, and the Denver Nuggets came away with three new prospects. They selected Evan Fournier (No. 20), small forward Quincy Miller (No. 38) and center Izzet Turkyilmaz (No. 50), which is a solid mix of talent for where they selected. Tom Ziller of SB Nation has released his 2012 NBA Draft Grades for the Western Conference teams, and the Denver Nuggets come away with an impressive "A" grade:
Drafted Evan Fournier No. 20, drafted Quincy Miller No. 38, drafted Izzet Turkyilmaz No. 50
Hey! The Nuggets! What do you mean they added two more wings and a player with multiple Zs in his name? I'm stunned!
I have no idea if Fournier will be either a good NBA player or a good fit in the NBA -- he seems like a bigger, less nutty J.R. Smith, which is neither a good or bad thing. Miller is a dice roll, but a dice roll that certainly should have been taken by someone before No. 38. I'm of the mind that Miller will pan out well, provided he's brought along slowly. GRADE: A
Ziller is apparently high on what the West teams did, as the Utah Jazz, Oklahoma City Thunder, Memphis Grizzlies, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Golden State Warriors and Portland Trail Blazers also received an "A."
Matt Moore (@HPBasketball) of CBS Sports gave Denver a "D," while Kurt Helin of NBC Sports offered up a "B" mark for the Nuggets.
The Denver Nuggets selected Evan Fournier (No. 20), small forward Quincy Miller (No. 38) and center Izzet Turkyilmaz (No. 50) with their trio of picks in the 2012 NBA Draft, and league writers are ready with their opinions on Denver's haul. Kurt Helin of the NBC Sports Pro Basketball Talk blog put together his NBA Draft Grades for all 30 teams, and he was impressed with what Denver managed to pick up:
Denver Nuggets: B
I like the pick of Evan Fournier from France, he's pretty athletic, has handles and does a lot of things well. Which is a good fit on that roster.
Matt Moore (@HPBasketball) slapped Denver down with a "D," so that would the opposing point of view on the Nuggets' 2012 draft class. Check out the embedded video posted below from SB Nation Studios for even more analysis from the draft.
The Denver Nuggets looked to Europe with its first-round pick in 2012, drafting guard Evan Fournier. The initial reaction to the pick is not altogether kind, but Nate Timmons of Denver Stiffs hopes general manager Masai Ujiri's international background will prove good with this pick:
But Masai Ujiri also comes from a very good international scouting background and the Nuggets did their homework on Fournier, you can be sure of that. Afterall, he actually worked out for the team ... unlike Skita. With 15 players on the roster for now, this could be a sneaky good pick as Denver could bring Fournier over after a little more seasoning in France.
Miller is a very intriguing player and a phenomenal value in the second-round. Had he stayed for his Sophomore season at Baylor, Miller might have played himself into the 2013 lottery. His tore his ACL his senior season in high school and was still somewhat recovering from a tough injury during his freshman season. This is a great pick for the Nuggets and a player who mirrors his game after Kevin Durant.
Obviously, no one is expecting a second-round pick to transform into Durant, but the Nuggets could have a steal on their hands if Miller can build on his potential. He'll just need to find a way to make a crowded roster.
The 2012 NBA Draft is complete, and the Denver Nuggets made some interesting selections by grabbing French shooting guard Evan Fournier with the No. 20 pick, small forward Quincy Miller at No. 38 and Turkish center Izzet Turkyilmaz with the 50th overall pick. How did NBA experts feel about Denver's draft class?
CBS Sports senior blogger 2012 NBA Draft Grades for all 30 teams, and the Nuggets got slapped with a 'D' for picking up too many prospects that are redundant with established players on their roster:(@HPBasketball) has dished out
Evan Fournier (20): It's a little odd, seeing the Nuggets traded for another versatile wing when they have Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Jordan Hamilton. Stockpiling assets is only valuable if you eventually do something with them.
Quincy Miller: All the athletic small forwards, Denver has them.
Izzet Turkylmaz: Seven feet tall. So he's got that going for him.
Overall Grade: D
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The Denver Nuggets were never really tied to French guard Evan Fournier leading up to this year's draft, making the team's selection of him with the 20th overall pick a fairly surprising outcome. Opinions on the pick appear to be generally mixed at this point, with SI.com's Sam Amick noting that the Nuggets are really adding depth here:
Denver pulls a mild surprise in selecting Fournier, who was seen by most as a late first-round or second-round pick. He's said to be a smooth scorer with a solid penetration game and shooting range. The Nuggets' combination of talent and reasonable contracts gives them a roster of maximum flexibility for trades. Add Fournier to that mix.
The Nuggets passed on some bigger names, including Ohio State's Jared Sullinger, Baylor's Perry Jones III and Kentucky's Marquis Teague, but the 19-year-old Fournier certainly has the ability to be deserving of the No. 20 selection.
After nabbing a pair of wing players with their first two picks, the Denver Nuggets have selected Turkish center Izzet Turkyilmaz with the 50th overall pick in Thursday night's NBA draft. The Nuggets will likely stash this pick in Europe for a few years, allowing him to develop before potentially bringing him over to join the team in Denver.
Standing at 7-foot-1, Turkyilmaz has the kind of height that could potentially make him a useful player on an NBA frontline with some development and growth. He's pretty slender, weighing in at just 211 pounds, but he's the kind of draft pick that won't arrive in the NBA for years anyways.
Clearly, the Nuggets didn't believe that they would be able to draft a player this late in the second round that could ultimately help the team. In Turkyilmaz, Denver takes a flier on a player with size and athleticism that might turn into something useful down the road.
The Denver Nuggets have selected Baylor forward Quincy Miller with the 38th overall pick in Thursday night's NBA draft. Many drafts had Miller pegged as a late first round pick, so this has to be considered a solid value pick for the Nuggets well into the second round.
Once considered one of the elite high school players in the nation, Miller had a major knee injury that sapped some of his athleticism. Despite the injury, Miller still showed flashes of his well-rounded game while playing for Baylor, averaging 10.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG and 1.4 APG while shooting 45 percent from the field as a freshman.
Many analysts believed that Miller could potentially emerge as a top-10 selection in the 2013 draft if he stayed at Baylor for another year, so the Nuggets are presumably pleased with landing him here. He still has the size (6-foot-10) and scoring ability that made him so intriguing in high school, so it'll be interesting to watch him develop.
The Denver Nuggets used the 20th overall pick of the 2012 NBA Draft to select guard Evan Fournier from France. Mock drafts rarely -- if at all -- had the Nuggets taking an overseas player. He played for Poitiers this past season, not exactly the best team, according to the talking heads on ESPN. Fournier turns 20 in October.
In 2011, the Nuggets picked up power forward Kenneth Faried with the 22nd overall pick and received a productive rookie season from him. Jordan Hamilton was drafted several picks later by the Dallas Mavericks, but a three-team trade involving the Portland Trail Blazers landed him in Denver. He barely played as a rookie.
Will Fournier play his rookie season with an impact like Faried or will he warm the bench more often than not in 2012-13? Given Karl's tendency to not really play rookies often, Fournier might not see the floor much. As a shooting guard for the Nuggets, Fournier will battle with all of the wing players Denver has to see the court.
That is, if he doesn't wait a couple of years to come to the United States.
NBA gurus may know of G Carlon Brown, a graduating senior from the Colorado Buffaloes who has NBA potential and could be selected in the second round of Thursday night's 2012 NBA Draft. But Brown is not the only graduating senior from Colorado looking to play pro ball.
According to BuffZone.com, Australian G Nate Tomlinson and American F Austin Dufault have pro ambitions as well. Tomlinson has agreed to terms with the Melbourne Tigers in Australia and will continue his development in the National Basketball League. And though he is departing Colorado, he is not leaving empty-handed:
"Playing at CU helped me a lot," Tomlinson said. "I've played with and against a lot of good athletes going back to my freshman year. Then also adjusting to a new coach and a new system pretty much got me prepared for anything."
Dufault, meanwhile, is exploring options in both Europe and China -- and has even received a pitch or two from Tomlinson to join him in the NBL.
For updates, stay tuned to SB Nation Denver. For all things Nuggets, visit Denver Stiffs. And to keep abreast of the latest Colorado Buffaloes news, drop by the CU blog The Ralphie Report. For more comprehensive draft coverage, head over to SB Nation's NBA news hub.
SB Nation's NBA analyst, Tom Ziller, has released his latest and final mock draft for the impending 2012 NBA Draft. In it, Ziller projects the Denver Nuggets to grab St. John's Red Storm SF Moe Harkless. Ziller explains the selection with perhaps the most cryptic analysis yet seen in the NBA mock draft arena:
20. DENVER NUGGETS: MOE HARKLESSAll wings everything.
Harkless played one season with St. Johns, and the 19-year-old Queens native only needed one year to impress scouts around the NBA, averaging over 15 points while managing to grab over 6 rebounds per game.
Here's a look at his full season stats:
|2011 - Moe Harkless||32||36.1||6.0||13.3||45.2||0.5||2.5||21.5||2.9||4.3||67.6||2.8||5.9||8.6||1.5||2.5||1.6||1.4||2.3||15.5|
North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall has clearly fallen behind Weber State point guard Damian Lillard on most 2012 NBA Draft boards and projections, but that may be beneficial to the Denver Nuggets on Thursday night. Sam Amick's Mock Draft 5.0 on SI.com has Lillard going No. 6 overall to the Portland Trail Blazers, while Marshall falls to No. 20 with the Denver Nuggets. This could be a good value for Denver, as Amick explains:
The Nuggets have been intrigued by Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague, but they'd have to seriously consider Marshall if he dropped this far. With Andre Miller set to become a free agent on Sunday, Denver could land the pass-first point guard who would work well in coach George Karl's selfless system.
The NBA Draft will unfold on Thursday, June 28 starting at 5:00 p.m. MT on ESPN. If you have grown weary of the mock draft scene, be sure to check out the excellent video from SB Nation Studios embedded below.
The Denver Nuggets currently hold the No. 20 pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, but in Chad Ford's Mock Draft 10.0 there is an interesting trade scenario floated where the Nuggets could end up in the top-10. Ford's official pick at No. 20 is point guard Kendall Marshall -- with Iowa State forward Royce White next up on the list -- and Missouri shooting guard Kim English at No. 38, but he also points out that Chris Broussard of ESPN has reported the Nuggets have talked about a deal involving Wilson Chandler for the No. 7 pick and Dorell Wright from the Golden State Warriors.
Top players available at pick No. 7 in Ford's mock include Dion Waiters, Harrison Barnes, John Henson, Austin Rivers, Meyers Leonard and Jeremy Lamb. Could the Nuggets pull off a draft-day stunner and move up for a blue chip prospect?
The NBA Draft takes place on Thursday, June 28 starting at 5:00 p.m. MT on ESPN.
The Denver Nuggets hold the No. 20 pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, but head coach George Karl is making sure to temper the expectations of fans. Even after striking gold with Kenneth Faried with the No. 22 pick in the 2011 Draft, Karl tried to set the bar lower than that by saying he doesn't think the 20th pick will be better than Jordan Hamilton or Julyan Stone, as noted by Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post. Perhaps that's just a way to pump up the players already on the roster and reinforce the organization's confidence in them before a new player joins the fray, but it's a decidedly odd basketball thought from Karl. Here is some of what he said, via the Denver Post:
"I don't want to burst anybody's bubble, but I don't think the 20th pick in this draft is going to be better than Jordan Hamilton or Julyan Stone...If Jordan is in this draft, he'd be in the top 10. And if Julyan goes in the draft, he'd be going right around where we pick."
This draft class is considered especially deep in the mid-first-round, and some very talented players could slip to where the Nuggets are selecting. Jared Sullinger was a projected top-5 pick in last year's draft, but he returned to school and now a medical red flag with his back could cause him to slip in 2012. Utlra-talented forward Perry Jones III may also be available, and the Nuggets could also be eyeing point guard Kendall Marshall or Iowa State forward Royce White as well.
The Denver Nuggets have plenty of options with the No. 20 overall pick in the upcoming 2012 NBA Draft. Will the Nuggets look to secure the front court with someone like Andrew Nicholson or for depth at point guard?
On the brink of tonight's 2012 NBA Draft, the Denver Nuggets still aren't giving much indication to what they'll do with the No. 20 overall pick. With veteran point guard Andre Miller set to become an unrestricted free agent, several recent mocks have linked to the Nuggets to North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall. That's how longtime mock staple NBADraft.net sees it, as well.
Marshall was the sophomore catalyst for the North Carolina Tar Heels last season before his NCAA Tournament run ended due to injury. He's seen as a pass-first point guard not far off from the mold of Miller.
Marshall averaged 8.1 points and 9.8 assists per game last season. The 20-year old measures at 6-foot-4, 198 lbs.
It's 2012 NBA Draft day, finally, and the Denver Nuggets hold the No. 20 overall pick on Thursday evening. While the Nuggets could certainly stand pat and use that selection, we'll need to see if any of the pre-draft rumor rumblings about moving up turn out to be true. Or maybe the Nuggets trade out of the first-round and pick up a player from another team -- we'll need to wait and see.
Last year, the Nuggets used the 22nd overall pick on Morehead St. forward Kenneth Faried. Faried went on to average 10.2 points and 7.7 rebounds for the Nuggets, making him one of the top rookies in the league during the 2012 season.
A little while later, the Nuggets swung a three-team trade to acquire 26th overall pick Jordan Hamilton from the Dallas Mavericks. The Portland Trail Blazers were the other party involved, picking up Raymond Felton from the Nuggets while sending Andre Miller back to the Nuggets. Denver also acquired Rudy Fernandez from the Mavericks. Hamilton played sparingly as a rookie.
Time: 5:00 p.m. MT
Location: Newark, N.J.
Nuggets Picks: 20, 38, 50
The Denver Nuggets told Florida shooting guard Bradley Beal that they're considering ways to move up in the draft to select him, as Beal told Andy Katz of ESPN.com. Beal also says that Oklahoma City Thunder have given him a similar statement, although the odds are still slim that a playoff team can move up far enough to land him.
At the moment, the Charlotte Bobcats are listening to offers for the No. 2 pick, with the Cleveland Cavaliers showing the most interest in moving up. The Cavaliers have the No. 4 pick, but they want Beal and don't believe that he'll get past the Washington Wizards with the No. 3 pick.
Given the high odds that Beal is Washington's pick should he be there, the Nuggets would probably need to move up to Charlotte's spot in the draft in order to grab the Florida product. While the Nuggets do have a variety of good young players and the No. 20 pick, moving up 18 spots is a tall mountain to climb.
Once considered a potential top-5 selection, Baylor forward Perry Jones III falls to the Denver Nuggets with the 20th overall pick in Wednesday's mock draft from David Aldridge of NBA.com. A major athlete that never dominated in college like his talent would suggest, Jones is admittedly quite intriguing:
With the caveat that the Nuggets could well be making this pick for someone else -- Denver's rotation is already filled to the gills, two deep at every position -- Jones comes off the board. He's a wildly talented player way too inconsistent to go earlier.
We haven't heard any concrete rumors about the Nuggets trading the No. 20 pick, but Aldridge floats the idea here and it doesn't seem especially wild. And you have to imagine that they'd be happy getting Jones III, someone with legitimate star potential, if they hang onto the selection.
With just one day remaining before this year's NBA Draft, SI.com's Sam Amick sees North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall falling to the Denver Nuggets with the No. 20 overall pick in his latest mock draft. Marshall was once considered arguably the top point guard in the class, and he'd give the team a new back-up to Ty Lawson:
The Nuggets have been intrigued by Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague, but they'd have to seriously consider Marshall if he dropped this far. With Andre Miller set to become a free agent on Sunday, Denver could land the pass-first point guard who would work well in coach George Karl's selfless system.
Marshall has good size and elite playmaking skills, as the 6-foot-4 guard averaged 9.8 assists per game with the Tar Heels during his sophomore year. He was once seen as a potential lottery pick, so the Nuggets would presumably be pretty pleased if they landed him there.
Draft picks are valuable commodities in the NBA, but they have their downsides. For one, drafted players have, of course, never played a game in the NBA, and any draft pick can turn out to be a bust. Young NBA players, on the other hand, have proven their worth, and the Denver Nuggets have a cache of young, proven NBA players.
Lots of teams calling Denver to trade for Nuggets' young players. 1of several moves being discussed: Wil Chandler to G State for 7th pick— Chris Broussard (@Chris_Broussard) June 27, 2012
The Denver Nuggets are widely thought to be targeting two positions in the 2012 NBA Draft: point guard and power forward. Their decision will likely heavily be dictated by which players are available at No. 20 overall, but in the newest mock draft from ESPN's Chad Ford they land a gem: North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall.
The Denver Nuggets are regarded as one of the NBA's deepest teams, which is probably why recent mock drafts can't even come to a consensus on what position George Karl's team might be targeting with the 20th overall pick in Thursday's 2012 NBA Draft.
Perhaps that's good news for the Nuggets, who seemingly can take the best player available without getting pigeonholed into a specific position. A new mock from Jeff Goodman of CBS Sports has Denver taking Kentucky Wildcats forward Terrence Jones. Says Goodman:
Jones is an enigma, but the Nuggets would be thrilled if he's still around at 20.
Jones was a sophomore on the Wildcats' national title-winning team last season. He finished his college career with averages of 14 points and eight rebounds per game.
The latest mock draft from ESPN's Chad Ford suggests the Denver Nuggets could find a young, cheap PG Andre Miller replacement in North Carolina's PG Kendall Marshall. According to Ford, Marshall would fit nicely on the Nuggets bench:
20. Nuggets -- PG Kendall Marshall
Analysis: Andre Miller's contract is up with the Nuggets this summer and, in most every way, Marshall is the perfect replacement. They have similar builds and games. While Ty Lawson is the clear starter in Denver, the Nuggets could really use depth at the position. Royce White and Andrew Nicholson are both options here as well.
Marshall played two seasons with the North Carolina Tar Heels, and set himself apart in his sophomore campaign with some impressive play, if not gaudy statistics. Here is a look at his stats from the 2011-12 NCAA season:
|2011 - Kendall Marshall||36||33.0||2.9||6.3||46.7||0.8||2.2||35.4||1.5||2.2||69.6||0.2||2.4||2.6||9.8||2.8||1.2||0.2||1.6||8.1|
This weekend, Nate Timmons of SB Nation Denver Nuggets blog Denver Stiffs got to control the Nuggets' draft when the SB Nation team NBA bloggers got together to stage a mock draft. With the pick, Timmons picked St. Bonaventure power forward Andrew Nicholson, a sure-fire first rounder who was one of the best players in college basketball last season.
The difference between the first and second rounds of the NBA Draft is enormous. First round picks are guaranteed contracts, while second rounders have to fight for roster spots in order to actually make it to the NBA. But value can still definitely be found in the second round— be it a borderline star like Gilbert Arenas or a solid bench player like Taj Gibson or a Rookie of the Year candidate like Isaiah Thomas.
The Denver Nuggets hold the No. 20 overall selection in Thursday's 2012 NBA Draft. As a team with a solid bench and without a glaring weakness, the Nuggets will have plenty of options when it's their turn to choose.
One name that's been tied to Denver throughout the process is Arnett Moultrie, a big man out of Mississippi State. That's exactly who Jonathan Givony has the Nuggets taking in the latest mock draft by Draft Express, out via Yahoo! Sports.
20. Denver Nuggets
Arnett Moultrie: PF/C, 21, 6-11, 233, Mississippi St., Junior
The Nuggets have good depth at pretty much every position. This should allow them to draft the most talented player that falls to No. 20. Moultrie has the skill level and athleticism to see minutes at power forward alongside Denver's bevy of centers, but is also big enough to play alongside Kenneth Faried and Al Harrington.
Matt Moore of CBS Sports has the Denver Nuggets going with forward Royce White in his latest 2012 NBA mock draft.
Royce White, PF, Iowa State: The Nuggets love versatility and this gives them a big who can score. They have more than enough guys to go small with, this gives them a combo-forward to go big with. High upside, and the Nuggets are smart enough to prepare him mentally. With JaVale McGee on board, dealing with White is a piece of cake.
White was a versatile contributor for the Cyclones in 2011-12, averaging 13.4 points, 9.3 rebounds and 5.0 assists per game. Draft Express has a video scouting report on him.
In his latest NBA mock draft for CBS Sports, Jeff Goodman has the Denver Nuggets going with Marquis Teague at No. 20:
Teague was part of a highly-touted group of freshmen that led the Kentucky Wildcats to the national championship in 2012. In his lone season with the 'Cats, Teague averaged 10 points and 4.8 assists per game.
Draft Express has a video breakdown of Teague's game, which includes input from ESPN's Jay Bilas and Kentucky head coach John Calipari.
Damian Lillard has shot up the draft boards and is projected to be one of the first point guards taken in the 2012 NBA Draft. With the draft approaching Lillard has worked out with multiple teams over the past week, but he has only been doing individual workouts:
Weber State's Damian Lillard has been doing only solo workouts. So far he has worked out for the Raptors (6/12), Kings (6/13), Blazers (6/15) and Warriors (6/17). The Hornets have been trying to get him in, but he'll come only if they agree to a solo workout. It's an interesting strategy for Lillard; I'm not sure whether it's going to help him or hurt him.
The Denver Nuggets are projected to select Iowa State forward Royce White with the 20th overall pick in the latest mock draft from Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated. The Nuggets have been one of the most difficult teams to peg in the first round of this year's draft, as Amick notes:
The Nuggets' pick changes for the third time in three mock drafts, from Washington point guard Tony Wroten to Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague and now to White. While there are indications that Wroten's stock is sliding, I'm told that the Nuggets are still legitimately interested in the latter two prospects. White is a rare talent, a point-forward type with some guard skills but a guy who can also play the role of scoring and rebounding big man. He's had to answer questions about an anxiety disorder that has led to a fear of flying. 'It's not as much of a challenge as people think,' White told reporters after his workout with Indiana recently. 'But it's something I live with every day and have to be conscious of.'
White likely would go much higher in the draft if there were zero concerns about his anxiety disorder, especially after an impressive first season at Iowa State. Playing a sort of point-forward role, White averaged 13.4 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 5.0 APG and 1.2 SPG, shooting 53 percent from the field.
George Karl and the Denver Nuggets value depth across the floor and have made using nearly their entire bench the team's trademark in recent years. In the 2012 NBA Draft, the Nuggets could look to bolster that bench at any position, though some expect them to look at point guard with the potential departure of Andre Miller in their minds. But, in his most recent 2012 NBA mock draft for SBNation, Tom Ziller sees the Nuggets choosing Baylor small forward Quincy Miller.
Jones is a 6’9 252 lb matchup problem who had 2 very good seasons at Kentucky … A southpaw with good agility, leaping skills, explosiveness and quickness for his size … Has the ability to make athletic plays in traffic … Definitely has more then enough physical and athletic tools to play SF and PF at the NBA level
Jones averaged 12.3 points and 7.2 rebounds per game for the Kentucky Wildcats during the 2011-12 season.
Ohio State big man Jared Sullinger has been listed as a top-10 prospect in the 2012 NBA Draft class ever since the NCAA season started, but on Monday news broke that teams are becoming concerned about an issue with his back. The medical red-flag reportedly emerged during testing at the NBA Combine, but Sullinger's father has said it has more to do with tight hamstrings and quads than the back, and that it shouldn't be considered a long-term problem.
As Ford notes, it all comes down to how teams evaluate the risk, but if he drops this low the Nuggets would certainly be ecstatic to get a player of his caliber in the back-end of the first-round. Draft Express has the 20-year-old big man ranked as the No. 7 prospect in the entire draft on their big board (although it was last updated on May 25).
The Denver Nuggets hold the No. 20 overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, but they worked two of the top-rated guard prospects on Monday, at least according to John Hollinger's Draft Rater on ESPN. The model is designed to predict the Player Efficiency Rating (PER) for the rookie class each year, and this time around it bodes well for the Nuggets. Marquis Teague, Tyshawn Taylor and Will Barton all recently worked out for the team. As it turns out, Teague and Barton are two of the top-10 perimeter players in the draft, according to Hollinger's system.
Teague's projected 13.18 PER ranks ahead of Bradley Beal (11.65) and just behind Kendall Marshall (13.84), while Barton's 10.90 mark is very close to Harrison Barnes (11.11) and ahead of Jeremy Lamb (10.50).
The Denver Nuggets hosted three guards on Monday and on Tuesday they'll bring in 10 additional players for workouts. The Nuggets will be evaluating potential second round options. Along with Vanderbilt center Festus Ezeli, these nine players will participate in the workouts:
Jason Clark, Georgetown University (6-2 / 180 / Senior / Shooting Guard)
Kyle Fogg, University of Arizona (6-2 / 190 / Senior / Shooting Guard)
Kenny Gabriel, Auburn University (6-8 / 200 / Senior / Small Forward)
Mitchell Watt, University at Buffalo (6-9 / 230 / Senior / Power Forward)
Eli Holman, University of Detroit (6-8 / 255 / Senior / Power Forward)
Bernard James, Florida State University (6-10 / 230 / Senior / Center)
Greg Somogyi, UC Santa Barbara (7-3 / 242 / Senior / Center)
Hank Thorns, Texas Christian University (5-9 / 165 / Senior / Point Guard)
Maalik Wayns, Villanova University (6-1 / 195 / Junior / Point Guard)
The Denver Nuggets are projected to select St. John's forward Moe Harkless with the 20th overall pick in the latest mock draft from NBADraft.net, which was published over the weekend. While many mock drafts have teams focusing in on specific players at this point, Denver continues to be a wild card given the team's lack of obvious needs.
With most teams, you can look at the holes on their roster and make a basic guess as to which kind of player they'll pursue in the draft. Obviously, the mantra of "take the best player available" is still ringing in the background, but the immediate impact that different role players can provide ultimately becomes a factor after the first few picks.
Given that, the Nuggets are a team that's been particularly difficult to predict in mock drafts over the past few weeks. We've seen them tied to point guards, wing scorers and athletic big men, a good reflection of how the team could really go in any direction.
In Harkless, the Nuggets would land a highly intriguing wing with major athleticism, the kind of high-upside player that they can gamble on given the lack of immediate needs. In his lone year with the Red Storm, Harkless averaged 15.3 points, 8.6 rebounds and 1.4 blocks, but he was a poor shooter, knocking down just 20 percent of his three-point shots.
With the No. 20 overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, the Denver Nuggets will likely have a number of intriguing prospects to choose from. It is unclear exactly what positions the team may be targeting, but with plenty of youth in the frontcourt and some longterm solutions on the wings, many draft prognosticators expect the Nuggets to seriously consider adding a young point guard with their pick. The team already has a borderline star in Ty Lawson, but back up Andre Miller is an unrestricted free agent this offseason.
If the team's workout schedule is any indication, they may be thinking along those same lines, as they announced today that they'd be working out a trio of guards- Marquis Teague, Tyshawn Taylor and Will Barton- that are expected to be available when their first round pick comes up:
Baylor forward Quincy Miller is the Denver Nuggets' selection with the 20th overall pick in Jonathan Givony's latest mock draft for DraftExpress.com. Many believe that the Nuggets will look to add depth at point guard, but Givony thinks the team will take advantage of its lack of obvious needs:
The Nuggets have good depth at pretty much every position. This should allow them to draft the most talented player that falls to No. 20. Miller was considered the No. 1 prospect in his high school class before tearing his anterior cruciate ligament. His terrific combination of size, length and scoring instincts could make him a steal for Denver.
As a freshman at Baylor, Miller averaged 10.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG and 1.4 APG while shooting 45 percent from the field and 35 percent from long range. While those numbers are underwhelming, they're a poor reflection of Miller's ultimate upside, which is obviously quite high.
The Denver Nuggets are known as one of the deepest teams in the NBA, and the No. 20 pick in the first round will only grant George Karl's team another opportunity to add a quality rotation player. The Nuggets hit gold last year with power forward Kenneth Faried, and ESPN's resident draftnik Chad Ford thinks Denver could go with another four-man this year.
In his seventh mock draft, Ford has the Nuggets selecting Mississippi State's Arnett Moultrie, a 6-foot-11, 223 lbs. 21-year old.
Moultrie made the head-scratching decision to sit out the draft combine drills. He would've looked great in that setting, but instead saw several players leapfrog him on the draft board. I doubt he slips much past the Nuggets or Celtics, though.
His length, athletic ability and shooting touch should all come in handy in Denver. Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague is also an option here.
The Portland Trail Blazers nab Weber State point guard Damian Lillard with the sixth overall pick in the latest mock draft from ESPN's Chad Ford. For a player that wasn't even considered a lottery pick at one point, it's been quite the ride up draft boards over the past few months for Lillard. Here is Ford's take:
If [UConn's Andre] Drummond falls here, I think they take him. But if he doesn't, I'm hearing Lillard could be the man. He wowed at the draft combine and measured very similar in size and athletic ability to Derrick Rose. While Lillard isn't nearly the same prospect as Rose, the Blazers need a point guard and Lillard has the potential to be very, very good. Taking him at No. 6 is no longer a reach. Harrison Barnes and Jeremy Lamb would also be in the mix here.
Obviously that's quite the comparison, and even with the qualifications that Ford offers, it's a testament to the kind of athlete that Lillard is. It remains to be seen whether he'll be able to adjust to the NBA game, but at the moment there isn't a better point guard prospect in this draft.
Weber State point guard Damian Lillard is projected to be selected by the Toronto Raptors with the eighth overall pick in the latest mock draft from Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated. At this point, it seems like Lillard is a lock to be taken in the lottery after beginning the year as a fringe first-round pick.
Lillard's rise has been steady, and his decision to participate combine drills paid off after he shined as a shooter and an athlete. The Raptors are seeking scorers to help an offense that ranked 29th in points per possession and could be looking for their next floor general now that incumbent point guard Jose Calderon is entering the final year of his contract (worth $10.6 million). Syracuse shooting guard Dion Waiters is under consideration as well.
Amick also writes that the Sacramento Kings are considering Lillard, although that would create an obvious playing time issue in the backcourt with Tyreke Evans, Marcus Thornton, Isaiah Thomas and Jimmer Fredette already on the roster.
The Denver Nuggets are projected to select Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague with the 20th overall pick in the latest mock draft from Sports Illustrated's Sam Amick. This is just the latest mock to tie Denver to Teague, who is considered one of the top point guard prospects in the draft class.
As good as the point guard combo of Ty Lawson and Andre Miller was for the Nuggets, Miller is a free agent and may not be back. I had Washington point guard Tony Wroten here before, but I'm told that the Nuggets have their eyes on the younger brother of Hawks point guard Jeff Teague. Marquis Teague doesn't have the aggressive scoring mentality of Wroten, but he is a speedy floor leader who would be comfortable playing at Denver's typically fast pace.
As the starting point guard for national champion Kentucky, Teague averaged 10.0 PPG and 4.8 APG while shooting 41 percent from the floor. During the Wildcats' NCAA Tournament run, Teague put up 13.3 PPG, including a career-high 24 points against Iowa State.
Ty Lawson and Andre Miller formed a two-headed point guard attack to carry the Denver Nuggets to the playoffs last season, but the 36-year old Miller is an unrestricted free agent who's already rumored to be drawing interest from the Miami Heat. A new mock draft by CBS Sports' Jeff Goodman pitches a potential replacement for Miller in Kentucky's Marquis Teague.
Teague was the freshman lead guard on Kentucky's national championship-winning title team last season. The 19-year old is starting to look like a consensus first round selection. Teague averaged 9.4 points and 4.8 assists last season. He scored 14 points and 5-of-14 shooting in the Wildcats' title game victory against the Kansas Jayhawks. Teague scored a season-high 24 points in Kentucky's Round of 32 win over Iowa State on March 17.
The 2012 NBA Draft Combine in Chicago is currently underway and the measurements will be important for plenty of prospects, but Tom Ziller of SB Nation put together a 2012 NBA Mock Draft right before the combine so you can take a look at the landscape before a few stopwatches and tape measures change things. Anthony Davis predictably flies off the board at No. 1 to the New Orleans Hornets, but things quickly get interesting. Ziller has the Bobcats taking Michael Kidd-Gilchrist at No. 2 and the Wizards snatching Bradley Beal at No. 3, and after the lottery there is a big run on guards.
The Denver Nuggets hold the No. 20 overall pick and could use another guard in the rotation if Andre Miller leaves, but Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Ross, Austin Rivers and Tony Wroten are all off the board. Luckily, Syracuse combo guard and sixth-man Dion Waiters is there for the Nuggets to grab. It could be another steal for Denver to follow up their selection of Kenneth Faried last season, as Waiters is rated the eight-best prospect in the draft by ESPN's Chad Ford as has drawn at least one comparison to Dwyane Wade.
The Denver Nuggets may have an exceptional starting point guard in Ty Lawson, but ESPN's Chad Ford believes that they could still target a player at that position in the first round of the NBA Draft. In his latest mock draft, released on Tuesday, Ford projects the Nuggets to select Kentucky guard Marquis Teague with the 21st overall pick:
Andre Miller is heading into free agency this year and the Nuggets really lack depth at the point guard position. Had Teague stayed another year at Kentucky, he might have been a Top 10 pick. He's a value get here.
As a freshman, Teague was the starting point guard for the Wildcats as they rode to a national championship. An explosive athlete, he averaged 10.0 PPG, 2.5 RPG and 4.8 APG over 32.6 MPG, but he also shot just 41 percent from the field and 33 percent from three-point range. Improving his shooting and decision-making will be key, but scouts love his upside.
The last time the Denver Nuggets selected a player from the Syracuse Orange in the NBA Draft, the team wound up with Carmelo Anthony. But that was all the way back in 2003 and he has already moved on from Denver. Might there be a return of a Melo to the Mile High City? The Sporting News' Deveney thinks the Nuggets should go after Syracuse center Fab Melo:
The Nuggets traded away Nene this season, and they’re not sold on JaVale McGee as the long-term solution inside. Adding a talented center who will need some time to develop, like Melo, is a good back-up plan.
McGee had a big playoffs performance, which might send teams to throw plenty of money at the restricted free agent. How high will the Nuggets go to match an offer remains the question. This pick is certainly wide open and even potentially open in a trade. Anyone's guess on what the Nuggets will do here is probably in the range of possibilities.
The consensus for the Denver Nuggets in the 2012 NBA Draft is that there is no consensus on whom the Denver Nuggets should select. There is no glaring hole that needs to be fixed, so the team can look at the best player available. However, Sports Illustrated's Sam Amick believes the Nuggets should take Washington Huskies point guard Tony Wroten with the 20th overall selection:
As good as the point guard combo of Ty Lawson and Andre Miller was for the Nuggets, Miller is a free agent and may not be back. Wroten has been criticized for his decision-making and ability to play under control, and he shot only 16.1 percent from three-point range last season. But he's also a potent player who has drawn comparisons to Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook for his aggressive style.
The Nuggets do want to bring back Andre Miller, which makes the selection of a point guard somewhat questionable. However, if the Nuggets believe they won't be able to bring him back, point guard might be the best choice for the team. Julyan Stone is the only other point guard beside Lawson on the roster and his potential is probably not close to Wroten's.
Wroten averaged 16.7 points, 5.0 rebounds and 3.6 assists as a freshman in 2011-12.
The Denver Nuggets hold the No. 20 overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, so they will certainly have options when they are on the clock in June. The landscape in front of the Nuggets is what matters most right now, and Tom Ziller of SB Nation projects the lottery picks in his latest 2012 NBA Mock Draft. As expected, Anthony Davis flies off the board with the No. 1 overall pick and joins the New Orleans Hornets, but the back end of the lottery is where the Nuggets will be looking for clues.
With Tyler Zeller going to the Milwaukee Bucks, Austin Rivers joining the Phoenix Suns and Meyers Leonard fitting in on the Houston Rockets, Denver can look to other prospects like Syracuse SG Dion Waiters -- who is generating lots of buzz on ESPN -- or perhaps players like Marquis Teague, Jeff Taylor and Arnett Moultrie. There will be plenty of options at No. 20. After hitting on Kenneth Faried in the late first-round last season, Nuggets fans have every season to be excited.
The 2012 NBA Draft is about a month away, but on Wednesday the lottery order was settled with the New Orleans Hornets moving up to the No. 1 overall pick. The Nuggets weren't in the lottery since they made the playoffs, so it didn't affect them. But now we'll start getting a better sense of where the mock draft projections will move for the Nuggets. ESPN Insider Chad Ford has released his first post-draft-lottery mock and the Nuggets pick up St. John's forward Moe Harkless:
The Nuggets don't have any glaring needs right now, which gives them the luxury of taking the best player left on the board. We've had Quincy Miller here the past few mock drafts, but there seems to be a growing consensus that Harkless might be the better prospect.
Ford's been on the "best player available" mantra since his first mock draft. Now five deep in, Ford is still sticking with it. There really isn't a position of immediate need for the Nuggets, making this pick a wide open one. Or maybe even open for trade.
The 2012 NBA Draft Lottery on Wednesday night settled the order of selection for the late June event, and the New Orleans Hornets will select No. 1 overall. They will likely select Kentucky Wildcats forward Anthony Davis with the pick. This will be a signature move for new owner Tom Benson, who also owns the New Orleans Saints, following the trade of Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Clippers while the NBA ran the team.
The Charlotte Bobcats had the best chance of gaining the No. 1 pick, but they will be in the No. 2 slot as a result of this draw.
The Denver Nuggets, by virtue of making the playoffs, were not part of the lottery and haven't been since they selected Carmelo Anthony with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2002 draft. They will draft with the No. 20 overall pick
Here is how the lottery played out (full draft results):
14. Houston Rockets
13. Phoenix Suns
12. Milwaukee Bucks
11. Portland Trail Blazers
10. New Orleans Hornets (via Minnesota)
9. Detroit Pistons
8. Toronto Raptors
7. Golden State Warriors
6. Portland Trail Blazers (via Brooklyn Nets)
5. Sacramento Kings
4. Cleveland Cavaliers
3. Washington Wizards
2. Charlotte Bobcats
1. New Orleans Hornets
The 2012 NBA Draft Lottery is a few hours away, which will settle the order of the first 14 selections of the event, but that won't affect the Denver Nuggets all that much. They aren't in the lottery. However, how are mock drafts projecting the Nuggets before the lottery is settled? Over at DraftExpress, the Nuggets wind up with Kentucky Wildcats point guard Marquis Teague, taking him 20th overall.
The 19-year-old guard helped the Wildcats to a 2012 NCAA Tournament title, averaging 10.0 points, 4.8 assists and 2.1 rebounds per game.
At this point, it is still too early to guess accurately where the Nuggets are leaning. Ty Lawson is still under contract for a few more years and is likely to receive a long-term contract soon. Beyond Lawson, the Nuggets could lose Andre Miller, though general manager Masai Ujiri and coach George Karl want him back. Rookie Julyan Stone is an intriguing option given his size and skill set, but he played few minutes as a rookie.
The 2012 NBA Draft Lottery will be conducted on Wednesday, May 30, at 6:00 p.m. MT on ESPN. The Denver Nuggets aren't participating because they made the playoffs, but there are plenty of Western Conference foes to keep an eye on, including a couple of division rivals.
Here are the odds each team has of receiving a top three selection:
|# Combos||1st pick||2nd pick||3rd pick||Any top 3 pick|
The Denver Nuggets have some work to do if they want to catch the Oklahoma City Thunder, San Antonio Spurs, Memphis Grizzlies and Los Angeles Clippers in the Western Conference next season, but the franchise has been building a solid foundation through the NBA Draft over the past several seasons. Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried look like terrific picks, so how does the draft resume look for the past five years?
SB Nation's Tom Ziller has taken the time to look back on NBA Draft picks from 2007-2010, and the Nuggets simply haven't had many chances to add a premium player in the first round. Re-grading prior drafts is exercise that is often overlooked, but it's well worth your time to go back and check out how other teams in the NBA have been building (or destroying) their future through the NBA Draft.
Here is a quick recap of the Nuggets' big pick and some analysis from Ziller:
Ty Lawson (No. 18 overall)
Perhaps the best point guard in the 2009 NBA Draft was Ty Lawson. Kahn's predecessor Kevin McHale had picked up the No. 18 from Miami in a previous trade involving Antoine Walker. (All of the best trades involve Antoine Walker.) Kahn had agreed to send the pick to the Denver Nuggets (a perennial playoff team) for a 2010 first. The 2009 pick became Lawson. The 2010 pick became Luke Babbitt, who was flipped to Portland for pre-mohawk Martell Webster. Picking Flynn was bad enough. But then trading Lawson for Martell Webster?
...Denver had a player it liked, gave up a comparable asset to get him, and reaped the rewards. Brilliant play here.
Here is the link to Ziller's breakdown of the 2010 NBA Draft, which includes links back to the other three drafts as well.
Waiters, a 6'4" guard, left Syracuse University after a sophomore season in which he averaged 12.6 points, 2.6 assists and 2.4 rebounds per game. Here are a few of the things NBADraft.Net has to say about him:
Waiters' style of play reflects your prototypical combo-guard ... At 6'4 with a strong physical foundation, Waiters can play both on and off the ball throughout stretches of a game ... He's a scorer at heart, but his ability to create off the dribble results in open looks for teammates, which Waiters is capable of finding as a passer ... Always looking to get out in transition, he can change directions off the bounce, effectively absorb and deflect contact and finish at the rim ...
The Nuggets have the No. 20 overall pick in the first round as well as two picks in the second round of the 2012 NBA Draft. Forward Terrance Ross could very well be one of those picks, and in his first interaction with the Nuggets, he got a good feel for the organization:
"I'm learning a lot about the Nuggets," he said. "I know they're an up-and-down team, they like to shoot the 3-ball, play in transition."
Ross average 16.4 points and 6.4 rebounds per game in his sophomore season with the Washington Huskies. The 2012 NBA Draft begins on Thursday, June 28.
The most recent mock draft by Draft Express has the Denver Nuggets projected to select Syracuse guard Dion Waiters with the 20th overall selection in the 2012 NBA Draft. Denver already has a host of players capable playing the off-guard spot on the roster, but one of them, Rudy Fernandez, is a restricted free agent and could bolt town.
The Nuggets don't have a player who resembles Waiters very closely. At 6-4, he's a classic combo guard, blessed with a strong body that is about two inches too short to ideally play the two-guard spot in the NBA. Still, Waiters' scoring acumen and ability to create his own shot would seem to make him an ideal bench scorer at the next level. We all know how much the Nuggets like to score the ball.
Waiters could also develop into a disruptive defender, though it remains to be seen how he'll be able to handle NBA two-guards who may have a few inches on him.
The Denver Nuggets are biding their time now that they are out of the 2012 NBA Playoffs, but that just means intense preparation for the 2012 NBA Draft must be taking place. The Nuggets have the No. 20 overall pick and really don't have any particular area they should target, so taking the best player available will likely be the route the team takes, provided the pick is kept. Over at College Hoops Journal, the Nuggets are projected for St. John's Red Storm forward Moe Harkless:
Harkless is more "raw" compared to [Jeffrey] Taylor, but they share the same qualities. Harkless needs time to develop, but he’ll flourish in the Nuggets’ up-tempo offense.
As a freshman for the Red Storm, Harkless averaged 15.3 points, 8.6 rebounds and 1.4 blocks per game. He is 6 feet 8 and 208 pounds and has played both guard and forward. The Nuggets have plenty players at both positions with Danilo Gallinari, Arron Afflalo, Corey Brewer and Jordan Hamilton there, but as a long-term development project he could be worth it.
With the 2012 NFL Draft over, there are still several other drafts ready to take place, including the 2012 NBA Draft. However, that won't take place until the end of June. Rest assured, though, that ESPN Insider Chad Ford will have updated versions of his mock draft every so often. His fourth one came out on Monday.
The Nuggets don't have any real glaring needs right now, which gives them the luxury of taking the best player left on the board. Had Miller stayed in school another year, he would've likely been a top 10 pick in 2013. He's great value here.
Miller averaged 11.1 points and 5.0 rebounds for the Bears as a freshman. Taking the best player available is always a laudable move, but it'll be hard for Miller to find any playing time at the 3 with Danilo Gallinari entrenched there and several other players able to swing to that position.
The Denver Nuggets still have the rest of April to play for the regular season, but they are hanging just on the outside of the NBA lottery. The Nuggets hold the eighth spot in the Western Conference playoffs for now, but plenty could change over the remaining weeks of the regular season. Right now, ESPN Insider's Chad Ford is predicting the Nuggets to select Illinois Fighting Illini center Meyers Leonard with the No. 17 overall pick:
Leonard is a bit of a project, but he's big and athletic and he'll play defense. He won't be a stud in Year 1, but he brings quite a bit of upside at this point in the draft.
Ford projected Leonard to the Nuggets in his first mock draft before turning to Kentucky's Terrence Jones in his second version. However, this time Ford sees Jones going to the Milwaukee Bucks at No. 12 overall.
The Nuggets do have Timofey Mozgov and Kosta Koufos under long-term deals to play center, which could lead the team away from a center. But we're so early in the draft process that many things could change.
The Denver Nuggets are certainly feeling good after a 17-point victory over the Chicago Bulls, the NBA's best team, on Monday night. That win propelled the Nuggets back into the No. 8 spot in the Western Conference playoff standings and out of the lottery on the 2012 draft. With that in mind, ESPN's Chad Ford (Insider) has put out his second mock draft of the year, selecting Kentucky Wildcats forward Terrence Jones for the Nuggets with the 16th overall pick:
Analysis: Jones has enough talent to be five or six spots higher in the draft, but his inconsistent attitude may push him down a few spots. He'd be a great fit for the Nuggets, another versatile player who can play either forward position and shoot the basketball.
Jones, a sophomore, has averaged 12.5 points and 7.0 rebounds per game during the 2011-12 season. He can play both the three and the four, but he'd need to battle Kenneth Faried, who is having a great rookie season, and Danilo Gallinari to get playing time at the other positions.
The Denver Nuggets currently find themselves as the first team out of the NBA Playoffs, which means the team would be picking in the lottery for the first time since 2003 (when they selected Carmelo Anthony with the No. 3 overall pick). The Nuggets aren't going to hit it big with the 14th overall pick, but Iowa St. Cyclones forward Royce White could potentially be a good pickup, as SB Nation's Tom Ziller projects in his not-so-serious 2012 NBA lottery projection:
14. DENVER NUGGETS: ROYCE WHITE
No, I had not heard
of before last week.
Uh, why do you ask?
White is actually in his third year since starting college, but he started with the Minnesota Gophers two years ago before transferring to Iowa State and sitting out the 2010-11 season. After one year of college basketball, White has elected to enter the NBA Draft following a 13.1-point, 9.2-rebound and 5.1-assist season. He's 6-feet-8 and 270 pounds.
It's still early to be projecting things for the Nuggets. Next week they might not even be in the lottery anymore.
The 2012 NBA Draft, we'll hear, doesn't have a deep class of point guards. There's no one like Kyrie Irving, who went No. 1 overall to the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2011. But there are certainly impact point guards to be found in the 2012 draft. The Weber St. Wildcats' Damian Lillard is possibly the top point guard in the draft, and in Chad Ford's ESPN Insider mock draft, the guard is off the board at No. 9 overall to the Utah Jazz:
Enter Lillard. While the Jazz won't just draft to fill a position, Lillard is as talented as anyone in this range. He's more of a scorer than a pure point guard, but his ability to hit jump shots and get his teammates involved will be alluring to the Jazz.
For a second year in a row, the Jazz would go local with their pick since Weber State is located in Utah (the Jazz went to neighboring Colorado to take the Buffaloes' Alec Burks, a shooting guard who is emerging with the team as the season wears on).
Lillard is the first point guard off the board in this mock draft, followed by North Carolina's Kendall Marshall (No. 12 to New Orleans) and Washington's Tony Wroten Jr. (No. 19 to Atlanta). But first Lillard must declare for the draft, which is expected.
The 2012 NBA Draft is still several months away, but we'll soon start to hear about underclassmen leaving early for the draft.
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